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If you've loaded the group's homepage here since August 20 7PM US Central, you might have noticed that the design of the group's homepage changed... drastically. One of the advantages to being a Super Group is the ability to choose different layouts to better suit the mass of content we are trying to convey on a single page. When I say "layout" in this context, I don't mean moving modules around. I mean switching between a few different column layouts we can put content in.
"Why move stuff around?"
I'm not here to just babysit and do PR. I analyze the community and see where deficiencies exist and where we can improve. I've noticed a few trends happening and came up with a hypothesis for them. In general, there are inherent flaws in the UI design.
One of these trends is the gradual shift from a collaborative community to primarily a picture dump where members ingest content via their notifications. If you notice, there aren't that many long-term members posting in the comments. It's usually new artists looking for guidance, and they go unanswered. This tells me that reaching the comments section is too much of a workflow burden for people to do regularly.
Another trend I am seeing is the page scaring newbies away or making bad first impressions. Like it or not, this is the home of MLP SFM art. We do outreach at conventions via panels to garner interest in the art, and we direct them here. The submissions guidelines, while important (explained later), are daunting and seem heavy handed for people who don't know why. It takes up a lot of space on the homepage too. I moved them into their own journal and made a condensed welcome message explaining the importance in reading them.
The Limitations of DA
As we are all (or most) aware, DA has not adapted well to modern internet standards, and simple workflow and UI design improvements for group admins have not been made. For example, you'd think it would be easy enough for them to implement a way for admins to correct where submissions go in the gallery folders during the approval process. We either have to reject and tell you where to submit or accept, manually leave admin interface, go to gallery folders, find where the submission is, and change from there. It's burdensome. 90-95% of our rejections are from incorrect folder selections when submitting art to the group.
In terms of UI, a default free group has one layout: Side navigation bar + 2 columns. Super group expands that to 2 side navigation bars + 1 large central, 2 columns with no side navigation, and a variation on the free group layout's top bar. DA uses modules that are stacked in columns, and some modules are incompatible in certain columns while others have to be at a certain position. The Comments section, for example, can only be at the bottom of a column. Margins for columns are non-adaptable, and Firefox cuts off text on the right side navigation bar where the scroll bar is. Tl;DR: DA makes designing a content-rich and efficient page difficult.
SDLC and Where I Done Goofed
Despite setting up procedures for /any/ change to a group requiring the contributors to discuss/vote first, I managed to forget my own policy. It wouldn't be proper if I didn't own up to it. It sets a bad example. I had intended that policy to originally be for policy changes that affect the nature of the group, but I explained it as "any" to reduce confusion. I announced what I was going to do to about 38 people, but I didn't give them enough time to respond.
If it didn't cost me an additional $100+ a year, I'd setup a test group for intended changes. Usually, big changes to an application (think of websites as applications too) require a software development life cycle process to ensure minimal impact to customers when changes are made. Since that's not economical, I acted under the notion that I was testing what we could achieve before I presented it for final approval. This, ofcourse, means I had to change the production group.
Your Thoughts on UI (new or old)
This group can only thrive if its members' opinions are considered. Given the limitations of the platform I described, what are ways we could make the group more appealing to newcomers and useful for members with organization of the page? Below is a series of screenshots of what I did last night. Please keep it on topic to UI. General feedback is better left in group comments or in notes to admins.
One of these trends is the gradual shift from a collaborative community to primarily a picture dump where members ingest content via their notifications. If you notice, there aren't that many long-term members posting in the comments. It's usually new artists looking for guidance, and they go unanswered. This tells me that reaching the comments section is too much of a workflow burden for people to do regularly.
Another trend I am seeing is the page scaring newbies away or making bad first impressions. Like it or not, this is the home of MLP SFM art. We do outreach at conventions via panels to garner interest in the art, and we direct them here. The submissions guidelines, while important (explained later), are daunting and seem heavy handed for people who don't know why. It takes up a lot of space on the homepage too. I moved them into their own journal and made a condensed welcome message explaining the importance in reading them.
The Limitations of DA
As we are all (or most) aware, DA has not adapted well to modern internet standards, and simple workflow and UI design improvements for group admins have not been made. For example, you'd think it would be easy enough for them to implement a way for admins to correct where submissions go in the gallery folders during the approval process. We either have to reject and tell you where to submit or accept, manually leave admin interface, go to gallery folders, find where the submission is, and change from there. It's burdensome. 90-95% of our rejections are from incorrect folder selections when submitting art to the group.
In terms of UI, a default free group has one layout: Side navigation bar + 2 columns. Super group expands that to 2 side navigation bars + 1 large central, 2 columns with no side navigation, and a variation on the free group layout's top bar. DA uses modules that are stacked in columns, and some modules are incompatible in certain columns while others have to be at a certain position. The Comments section, for example, can only be at the bottom of a column. Margins for columns are non-adaptable, and Firefox cuts off text on the right side navigation bar where the scroll bar is. Tl;DR: DA makes designing a content-rich and efficient page difficult.
SDLC and Where I Done Goofed
Despite setting up procedures for /any/ change to a group requiring the contributors to discuss/vote first, I managed to forget my own policy. It wouldn't be proper if I didn't own up to it. It sets a bad example. I had intended that policy to originally be for policy changes that affect the nature of the group, but I explained it as "any" to reduce confusion. I announced what I was going to do to about 38 people, but I didn't give them enough time to respond.
If it didn't cost me an additional $100+ a year, I'd setup a test group for intended changes. Usually, big changes to an application (think of websites as applications too) require a software development life cycle process to ensure minimal impact to customers when changes are made. Since that's not economical, I acted under the notion that I was testing what we could achieve before I presented it for final approval. This, ofcourse, means I had to change the production group.
Your Thoughts on UI (new or old)
This group can only thrive if its members' opinions are considered. Given the limitations of the platform I described, what are ways we could make the group more appealing to newcomers and useful for members with organization of the page? Below is a series of screenshots of what I did last night. Please keep it on topic to UI. General feedback is better left in group comments or in notes to admins.
A Passing of the Torch
Hello everyone,
Those who don't know, !BeardedDoomGuy (https://www.deviantart.com/beardeddoomguy) came out of no where and handed me the founder position for SFM Ponies. Truthfully, I feel like I don't deserve it, but he says otherwise.
I don't really know what to say, and I'm not the best at writing speeches, but I will say that I will try my best to keep pushing the group forward and helping us stay strong. Ever since I joined the fandom in late 2014, and the SFM community in 2015, I've have seen this group grow and create some amazing things. I've also met some great people along the way.
Even though the show is ending soon, this group will still keep going strong. Bigger an
The First Ever SFM Ponies Award
The following was presented at BronyCon 2019.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdL3E3z2RI8
Thank you ~Asa-Izumi (https://www.deviantart.com/asa-izumi) for all the hard work you have put into this community. You're appreciated more than you know by so many people. You have earned this. I am so happy to call you a friend.
This community is still going strong and it makes me glad that there are people like Genma to help keep it going.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
Picture of the award is here: https://twitter.com/yaasho_/status/1157821467758870530
And to everyone else,
Thank you. Whether you animate, model, or make posters - you all help keep the spark going in this
Happy 6th birthday SFM-ponies!
Today marks the 6th year since this group and it's following community was made by nazokilla and I.
From everyone in the current staff and past staff, we thank you all for being apart of this. without you guys we would been just an empty name.
I know its been a rough year with all the staff changes and rules changes but past all this group has improved since past years.
Better Submissions from you guys
More improved art from you guys and the staff
Better communications from staff on Submissions
and some forth thing I'm totally forgetting about
So everyone pat yourself on the back and open up SFM.
Thanks again!
Hope you all had a merry C
Journal Update
Hey everyone! Hope you all had a great Halloween :)
So I have just submitted the changes to the newly titled journal "People Who Take Pony OC Model Commissions". The individuals who got back to me have been placed in the respected areas in the journal. The ones who I have not heard back from or have requested that they be permanently removed from the journal have been removed. If they decide that they would like to be added to the list again in the future, they are more than welcome to. Just leave a comment on the journal. Same goes for everyone else who would like to be added.
A few changes that have been made:
-More simplistic layout
-Ico
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Also, I got an example here. Apparently this group is going for that basic layout. One single column in the middle with info in the side-bars.
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